Posted by fourcheesemac at 12:10 PM on Decem I personally would be happy to see a reflective mea culpa piece about this on the givewell blog, written by Holden, and admitting fully what went down here. This makes all of us more cynical about giving money to charity in general, not just to these guys, I think.Īnd the mods, bless their wise souls, are in no position to tell the rest of us what to think about Givewell or anything else. There's a pretense to good intentions and honesty and accountability here. In a way this is *worse* than three-card-monte on the streetcorner or someone scamming MeFi to sell crap. I think a little mob action is not out of place at all here. Many of us also believe in new, web-based ways of doing old things - Charity 2.0, as Lucy Bernholz, one of Givewell's board members, calls it. Many of us are considering our end of year giving, which has to be *exactly* why Holden and co. We may be a mob, but this time of year this really hits home. Posted by holden00 at 12:02 PM on December 31, 2007 Would that be appropriate? Would anything else? I'm not offering this in return for your ceasing your criticism, I'm offering it to make up for abusing the rules. So I can't offer a lot of money, but I can offer a donation to Metafilter from my pocket. I spent 3 years at a hedge fund and gave enough to charity that I wanted to know more about what I was doing. But it was horrible, I feel horrible, I absolutely understand your wish to now keep a close eye on me (and I encourage it), and I want to know if there is anything I can do to make it up to the Metafilter community. I did a horrible thing, I did it without thinking much - to me it was the equivalent of shouting. I am low on sleep and I'd like to think that had somethign to do with it. But you just made it a lot harder to believe." It's nice to believe a couple of spoiled kids would chuck the Cristal and Lexus set and give their all for charity. You had better be squeaky clean in every other respect, because some of us intend to find out, and watch you in the future. Posted by fourcheesemac at 11:09 AM on Decem Tim Ogden is Chief Knowledge Officer of Geneva Global, a philanthropic consulting firm devoted to results-oriented grantmaking in the poorest regions of the world. Lucy Bernholz is President and Founder of Blueprint Research and Design, author of Creating Philanthropic Capital Markets, and maintainer of the Philanthropy 2173 blog. Holden Karnofsky (Secretary) - bio above. Greg Jensen (Treasurer) is co-Chief Investment Officer at a major hedge fund, the former supervisor of both Holden and Elie, and one of our project's major financial supporters. Virginia Zink (Vice-Chair) is a former Head of Institutional Sales at ING Australia, and one of our project's major financial supporters. If anyone wishes to call this little incident to the attention of the Board of Givewell here's the list:īob Elliott (Chair) was one of the original 8 members of GiveWell, as well as co-founder of the national nonprofit Global Justice (not eligible for a Clear Fund grant).
But by pulling this stunt, they reveal they are just like all their rich kid pals. Frankly, I would not trust a pair of hedge-funders with a penny of my charitable money. And the putting on airs across that site is really hilarious. And gotta wonder if they aren't looking to make a dishonest dime or two here too. Gotta laff at two ivy league hedge fund boyz running this little game.
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While Holden is responsible for the project as a whole, Elie is devoted to research: evaluating grant applications and determining how to help people as effectively as possible. He was one of the original 8 part-time volunteer members of GiveWell, and in August of 2007 he left his job to become full-time Program Officer at The Clear Fund (our grantmaking entity). He founded GiveWell in August of 2006, as a part-time collaboration between 8 friends struggling with their personal donation decisions, and left his job to become full-time Executive Director in June of 2007.Įlie Hassenfeld graduated from Columbia in 2004 with a degree in Religion, and spent the next several years in the hedge fund industry. Holden Karnofsky graduated from Harvard in 2003 with a degree in Social Studies, and spent the next several years in the hedge fund industry. Further on Givewell, here's the smarty pants fellas who pulled the stunt:
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